Posts by THE GLADIATOR

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

THE GLADIATOR

snare&racket “What did god do to people he didn't like?

What did god do to people that did not obey?

What did god do to those that broke his laws?

He..... KILLED them. God did not look down on the flood and pour water on babies, children and all but 8 of mankind out of LOVE, it was in anger and as a PUNISHMENT.

So even the bible, communicating the activity, words and thoughts of god makes clear that death is not just a BAD thing, but a PUNISHMENT.”

An excellent post. However, may I remind you that the new generation of Christians has become very slippery and openly declares that the bible is not the word of their god. Personal revelation is now back in vogue.

Only selected bible passages taken from a friendly translation, that fits in with carefully chosen beliefs promoting Jesus’ kindness, are permissible in any discussion about all things spiritual.

2596

The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

THE GLADIATOR

caliber You are offering more meaningless analogies.

flame grilled majored at doing this and threw the towel in.

People here are trying to help you.

2596

The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

THE GLADIATOR

caliber“acts of faith.. God's facts ..... it is a fact that faith moves people”

Let me repeat that I have empathy for you in your need to believe. I cannot assist you in seeking comfort from your god. I would like to bring you closer to the wonder of reality and how fantastic it is to be a part of it, if only for a short time. There are others here that can assist you better. I urge you to listen to their wisdom. Take care.

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

THE GLADIATOR

Kate, nice to hear from you. Perhaps you are seeking something from the god you believe in that can only be found in people. You have your problems, I know. Good friends are the best tonic there is.

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

THE GLADIATOR

caliber Facts of faith or faith in facts which will you chose ?

This is the stumbling block. Faith does not have facts. In matters of belief in a god or gods, faith replaces facts. Quoting from ancient books is entertaining but it is not a substitute for proven facts. Then there is the matter of translation.

I am fond of the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam born in 1809. As I can’t read Persian I read the translation by Edward Fitzgerald. The snag is there are 5 versions. The use of poets licence renders some verses almost unrecognisable. So, entertaining as his musings are, they are not proof of anything.

The bible is much the same, just older and far more tampered with. Quoting some of the nicer passages from it may be soothing but they offer no facts and therefore prove nothing.

You are no doubt sincere and yearn to find something firm to believe in and hope for. I have great empathy with that.

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Why Do Some Ex-JWs Get Their Feelings Hurt So Badly By Shunning?

by RottenRiley in

i ran in to a ex-jw and had a good laugh once he realized i was not going to shun him.

i am a different soul when we are dealing with watchtower demonology, everything about the organization is fan boy based.

watchtower creates the illusion of a community that never existed, we were too blind to realize most of the people we invested time with was nothing more than a farce, once you can't offer up more sacrfices on the watchtower's alter, your going to get less attention and eventually if your kingdom hall is big enough, they won't come looking for you.. .

THE GLADIATOR

Witness My Fury said "Unless it's your family, then it is your problem..."

I can concur with that. Almost my Entire family shun me. Some of them I loved and that hurt. It takes time to move on and those that complain are at the stage of learning to cope.

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Evolution? Or Was It Designed? What Do You Think?

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/manchineel.

you can't even stand under it in the rain and being tied to one will result in a slow, painful death.

so toxic it's freaky.. .

THE GLADIATOR

Until I clicked on your link, I thought this was another tribute to the Roman torture stake.

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

THE GLADIATOR

What are you on Perry?

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

THE GLADIATOR

Perry, if the number of people that believe in something is your priority, it is only a matter of time before you convert to being a Muslim. You would then have to cut and paste in either Arabic, Turkish, Urdu, Farsi, Pashtu, Dari, Bengali, Bosnian. Problem is, there are few Muslim scientists.

Listening to Snare & a racket makes more sense.

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

THE GLADIATOR

Flamegrilled. I have no intention of repeating what others have spent many pages explaining. You don’t give the impression that you want to have a focused debate, but rather, you seem to be trying to make others metaphorically chase their tails for your own amusement.

I'm sure you are a clever man, but you are too evasive to be taken seriously. In this debate you have failed to move the indomitable Cofty away from his mission. Just my observation; no doubt your mileage will vary - considerably.

As you keep repeating the same words, allow me to do the same:

Most of your evasive posts appear to be an attempt to take the thread off-topic. Were you to explain why you personally believe in the God of the Bible and how you justify his lack of action regarding the tsunami in question, you would be spot on topic.